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Автор: Александр Мартынов (greshnik) martunov@rambler.ru

Сразу после переборки двигателя ощутил привет от коробки. Заводимся без проблем, трогаемся "на ура", а вот при переключении на 2-ю или 3-ю передачу получаем банан в виде мигающей шестеренки на панели. Начитавшись инструкций - "автомат это для профессионалов", отправляюсь в сервис, договариваюсь о цене - типа не больше 650$.
 
    Предел установлен - ниже быть никак не может, ну и плюс расходников чуть-чуть - в конечном итоге ~ 700$, может немного побольше, теперь уже сложно все сосчитать. Все вроде бы хорошо, хотя смутные сомнения были: отдавал коробку сухую, на выходе вся потная в районе дифференциала, да еще предупреждение - типа смотри за уровнем масла, может его сбросить. Плохо ли, хорошо, но 12-13 тыс. проехал.
 
    Гарантия полгода, виртуальная, коробка продержалась на 20 дней больше, после недолгих экспериментов становится ясно - дифференциал, ну что еще может ощутимо щелкать на прямой, когда машина накатом идет (возможно глубоко заблуждался, и надо было дождаться, когда "хороший стук вылезет наружу").

    Опять к "профессионалам" - туда сюда, и снова 650$ (300 работа + 350 дифференциал б/у), и это в лучшем случае - АКПП в таком случае не просто дорогая получается, а прямо-таки ОЧЕНЬ дорогая. Думаем, читаем, звоним и … УРА!!! Б/у коробка, якобы только из Германии с гарантией на установку за 500$. Красота! Договариваюсь, привожу. АКПП оказалась довольно чистенькой. На всякий случай поменял сальники дифференциала. Супер!

    3500 руб. замена + 6 литров (!!!) ATF. Итого 5000 рубчиков. Включаем, все ОК. Подписываем бумажку - поехали. И тут здрасте, мигает шестерня, машина ЕДЕД. Звоню продавцу предупреждаю - сходимся на том, что коробка лежала, может, где что присохло и т.п. Эксперимент не проходит.
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В каком-то форуме натыкаюсь на номиналы сопротивлений соленоидов - удача!

    Приехал ко мне друг на выходные. Пока наши жены атаковали рынок, мы располовинили коробку: внутри чистота, поверхности идеальные, но с зазорами в дифференциале что-то не так, узнать невозможно - описаний самый сжатый минимум, из которых ничего нового или полезного не узнаешь. Есть вариант пойти купить книгу, если найдешь - в общем, только для сервисов. Ну, да и ладно. Вздремнули, и тут меня пробило: моя-то коробка, которая старая - по электрике живая! Смотрю, не соврали в форуме, порядок сопротивлений тот же (моим тестером около 12-13 Ом на трех соленоидах и 4-5 Ом на четвертом. Спецы сказали, что надо около 17-20 Ом, почти доверяю, но езжу на своих старых). На следующий день вместо чистки селектора проверяю соленоиды, там вот такой разъем:

 

И тут обнаруживаю, что соленоид включения 2 и 3 передач мертвый.
    Звоню продавцу, договариваюсь, когда подъеду за коробкой, а в душе при этом кошки скребут - еще 5000 рубчиков. Приезжаю, и... бог отвел, там такие 2 страшилки, причем обе надо половинить и мыть. Такой вариант не устраивает, договариваюсь с продавцом, что я сам попробую отремонтировать его первую коробку, а если не выйдет - тогда уже будем думать.
    Дома снимаю на своей старой коробке крышку гидроблока: внутри много чего, но оказывается совсем не страшно

 

На следующий день договариваюсь с товарищем о гараже с ЯМОЙ!!!

А теперь непосредственно про ремонт АКПП


1. Моем машину особенно впереди слева, еще больше желательно снизу - будет проще и не так страшно, что грязь в этот блок попадет, а она там совсем не нужна.

2. Снимаем все, что находится над передней частью коробки (аккумулятор, накопитель кондиционера у кого есть (а может и не потребуется), провод датчика температуры масла можно зацепить за штаны). Вид приблизительно такой


3. Сливаем масло с коробки (под правым шрусом крышка, у меня под ключ "на 24") осторожно - масло льет даже теплое очень сильно, вряд ли больше 4 литров. Тут еще можно оценить степень проблемы: если масло чистое, то хорошо. Но если есть какая-либо труха, то ничего путного подсказать не берусь - все дальнейшие манипуляции могут быть "как мертвому припарка".

4. Откручиваем от КОРОБКИ два патрубка с шлангами к радиатору (опять течет масло, около 300 мл) и подвязываем их к вентилятору поплотнее, чтобы не болтались и не мешали снимать и ставить кожух гидроблока.

5. Подставляем под коробку домкрат и откручиваем от коробки кронштейн (3 болта с головкой "на 15").

6. Поднимаем домкратом коробку. Подсовываем между коробкой и подмоторной рамой прокладку около 4 см (например, кусок доски). Откручиваем оставшиеся болты кронштейна, а лучше подушку вместе с кронштейном.

7. Окручиваем 9 болтов, крепящих кожух. На всякий случай еще раз продуваем, протираем и т.д. все вокруг и над этим местом, затем аккуратно с помощью рычага страгиваем кожух, потом так же аккуратно его снимаем - и вот он во всей красе:


8. Заменяем неисправный соленоид. Наносим на кожух герметик, ждем в соответствии с инструкцией к нему, и аккуратно устанавливаем кожух на место. Заворачиваем 9 болтов и затягиваем с моментами, не описанными в широкой литературе, но косвенно 25 Н-м (осторожно, блок силуминовый или что-то в этом роде).

9. Собираем в обратной последовательности все, что было отключено, окручено и т.д.
 
10. Убедившись, что все шланги, сливные пробки на месте, заливаем ATF, как широко описано в литературе (приблизительно количество можно оценить по слитому маслу, если раньше уровень был в норме и все было поймано при сливе).

Результат: Пробуем … и если никаких других проблем ВЫ не УСПЕЛИ наездить, то все работает на "5" как у меня.

Затраты по времени:
а) 45 минут на мойку машины подметание гаража и всякое рассусоливание. Машину мыл сам, поэтому коробку потом обдувал, отряхивал, протирал и т.д. раз сто. Какой-нибудь КЁРХЕР это сделал бы, в худшем случае, за 1 минуту.
б) собственно работы неподготовленного инженера электронной техники - 5 часов. Еще перед началом проведения ремонта АКПП сбегал за герметиком в магазин для меня новый, посмотрел, что там есть еще ненужного, ну и собирался с мыслями.
 
Личное мнение:
Что говорить о сервисах, там ребята эти болты каждый день крутят - работы от силы на пару часов, и расходников: масла 4 литра и клапан б/у. Выходит баксов на 100 делов, а нам, понимаешь 600$ - 700$. А, ну еще диагностика - электрики в коробке всего 5 проводов, проверка любым тестером - 2 минуты (остальные датчики напрямую не управляют гидроблоком, но нутром чую, что и из-за них можно заплатить не дурно!). Качество? Не могу согласиться, что в сервисе ремонтируют "на совесть", а сам для себя плохо вряд ли делать будешь. Вот и выбирай после этого - сервис - не всегда хорошо и довольно накладно по деньгам или ремонт своими руками - с душой, для себя и намного дешевле.
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